Information provided by Tom M (Captain on the VDH website message forum)
Not very often do we have the opportunity to work with one of these rare regulators up close.
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Link to 1953 Scripps Institue of Oceanography on Overhauling the Aqua Lung
I had the opportunity to work on a CG-45 for the first time. Some things I noted, all threads are metric but most other dimensions are the same as the Broxton, DA Navy and DAAM and it uses all the same gaskets and diaphragms. On this one the HP nozzle fit a standard tank valve O ring seat. All Spiros I have worked on have had a slighter larger metric O ring seat. This one may have been resized in the past and re-chromed as it was like new externally. My USD body vise and body ring wrench worked perfectly fine on it.
Like early Broxtons the body has no can tab cuts outs and the can has no tabs. This complicates getting the body in correct orientation to the can as it tends to turn when tightening the body ring. If the orientation is not correct it is impossible to position the diaphragm tabs so they make even contact on both ends of the horseshoe or will not contact the horseshoe ends at all. Because the hole in the can is not centered the body must be aligned with the 2nd stage seat 180 degrees from the inhalation horn side of the can and the horseshoe ends must fall on a line through the can centerline and perpendicular to the inhalation horn. See photos CG-45, 1, 2, & 3, CG-45 (2) is correct all others are misaligned.
The horseshoe adjustment is different from a Broxton or DA Navy. The two screws have a shoulder on them (photo CG-45 (7) ) that is larger than the threads, the Broxton and DA Navy screws do not. You do not use number of turns out to make the adjustment, you screw the screws in until the shoulder bottoms on the body then turn them out only as much as needed to aligned the horseshoe hinge pin.
It has no IP adjusting screw, photo CG-45 (5). Because the size of the valve on my test bench I could not check the IP at 300 psi but on an 1800 psi tank it was 110. Considering most tanks of the time were 1800 to 2000 psi this is in the ball park.
It looks as it was designed to be assembled without any adjustments or special tools, just screw everything together and it should be right or close enough.
I will add that it is almost impossible to tighten the body retaining nut tight enough to prevent the possibility of it turning out of alignment so for anyone who would be diving one regularly it might be a good idea to make an index mark between the can and body so it can be noticed if any movement has taken place.
Friday, July 31, 2015
Tuesday, July 28, 2015
Argonaut Mouthpiece Change
The First Series Argonaut Kraken regulators were shipped with a copy of the US Divers curved mouthpiece with a chrome plated logo button in the center. I had been selling the blank reproduction mouthpiece for several years and decided to use available inventory and make it special for the Argonaut Kraken owners and a way to identify the original series of production regulators.
Once the First Series of regulators was sold I still used the blank curved mouthpiece without the medallion. But the Argonaut Kraken has sold so well I have exhausted my supply of those mouthpieces. So for a short time regulators will be shipped with the USN version of the curved mouthpiece.
BUT.....There is a silver lining to getting your Argonaut Kraken with this unusual mouthpiece.....When Luis and I finish the new DSV style mouthpiece which will be the future standard for the regulator, those who got a USN mouthpiece on their regulator will get the new mouthpiece for FREE....Yes that's right you will be one of the first kids on the block to have the new and improved mouthpiece on your Argonaut Kraken.
WHY do this you might ask?......Good question.......I have no plans on offering the blank front curved mouthpiece in the future and will concentrate my limited capitol resources on inventory of the new DSV style, USD reproduction curved and re-stocking the straight black mouthpiece.
WHEN are you going to have the new DSV style mouthpiece done?......Another good question. Luis and I have been working on it as diligently as time allows and at this point the 3D drawings are being finalized and we are almost ready for rapid prototyping. We plan on doing a great deal of testing with the prototypes (and a few other things) when the Caribbean Luxury Divers invade Cozumel this November.
Luis has spent a great deal of time on analyzing ideas we have tried in the past and has a very promising design that I'm anxious to see in the flesh. This is not some mumbo jumbo BS pie in the sky idea that needs 100k to develop. It is based on solid engineering design principals with realistic goals for manufacturing and the ability to work with any double hose regulator that uses 1-1/2 hoses.
It will work with most all mouthpieces currently available for single hose regulators.
That's about all I'll disclose at the moment but when finished I think it will be something that most divers will enjoy using.
On another subject.........I'm sure you are all sick of hearing about the new website.....But not as sick as I am of working on it!
I mentioned that I have increased the storage capacity of the site and I am now in search of MORE information for the Manuals and Catalogs section......If you have anything at all to contribute please scan them to PDF and send them my way. If the files are large I can send you a direct link to upload to my Dropbox account and I will get them put up as a resource for anyone.
The current Manuals and Catalogs section has over 6GB of information in it and most of it was done by contributions from VDH Forum members like Alan K, Greg Barlow, Karl Gehring, Rob S, and many others who took the time to scan a few pages and send them my way. The Manuals and Catalogs section if free to access and download but it can only grow with more contributions.
If you don't have access to a scanner or don't want to mess with it, most any copy store will do it for you and put them on a thumb drive or disc and it's easy to share them with me after that.
As I've said many times in the past, VDH was built by a community and I need help to keep it growing. If you have questions please send me an E-mail. Bryan@vintagedoublehose.com
Once the First Series of regulators was sold I still used the blank curved mouthpiece without the medallion. But the Argonaut Kraken has sold so well I have exhausted my supply of those mouthpieces. So for a short time regulators will be shipped with the USN version of the curved mouthpiece.
BUT.....There is a silver lining to getting your Argonaut Kraken with this unusual mouthpiece.....When Luis and I finish the new DSV style mouthpiece which will be the future standard for the regulator, those who got a USN mouthpiece on their regulator will get the new mouthpiece for FREE....Yes that's right you will be one of the first kids on the block to have the new and improved mouthpiece on your Argonaut Kraken.
WHY do this you might ask?......Good question.......I have no plans on offering the blank front curved mouthpiece in the future and will concentrate my limited capitol resources on inventory of the new DSV style, USD reproduction curved and re-stocking the straight black mouthpiece.
WHEN are you going to have the new DSV style mouthpiece done?......Another good question. Luis and I have been working on it as diligently as time allows and at this point the 3D drawings are being finalized and we are almost ready for rapid prototyping. We plan on doing a great deal of testing with the prototypes (and a few other things) when the Caribbean Luxury Divers invade Cozumel this November.
Luis has spent a great deal of time on analyzing ideas we have tried in the past and has a very promising design that I'm anxious to see in the flesh. This is not some mumbo jumbo BS pie in the sky idea that needs 100k to develop. It is based on solid engineering design principals with realistic goals for manufacturing and the ability to work with any double hose regulator that uses 1-1/2 hoses.
It will work with most all mouthpieces currently available for single hose regulators.
That's about all I'll disclose at the moment but when finished I think it will be something that most divers will enjoy using.
On another subject.........I'm sure you are all sick of hearing about the new website.....But not as sick as I am of working on it!
I mentioned that I have increased the storage capacity of the site and I am now in search of MORE information for the Manuals and Catalogs section......If you have anything at all to contribute please scan them to PDF and send them my way. If the files are large I can send you a direct link to upload to my Dropbox account and I will get them put up as a resource for anyone.
The current Manuals and Catalogs section has over 6GB of information in it and most of it was done by contributions from VDH Forum members like Alan K, Greg Barlow, Karl Gehring, Rob S, and many others who took the time to scan a few pages and send them my way. The Manuals and Catalogs section if free to access and download but it can only grow with more contributions.
If you don't have access to a scanner or don't want to mess with it, most any copy store will do it for you and put them on a thumb drive or disc and it's easy to share them with me after that.
As I've said many times in the past, VDH was built by a community and I need help to keep it growing. If you have questions please send me an E-mail. Bryan@vintagedoublehose.com
Friday, June 12, 2015
Shark in a Bus ???
The whole month of June we are celebrating the one year anniversary of the Argonaut Kraken's release to the divers around the globe.
The diver you are about to meet is anticipating the arrival of his new regulator and has a very unique and fun way of sharing his love of diving and some of the creatures of the sea in his area.
Meet Paul Sharp, Museum Curator and soon to be Argonaut Kraken Diver.
"Shark in a Bus" is our heritage marine museum housed in a 1957 Leyland bus, representing two lifetimes of collecting around Australia. It has it's beginnings in the old Cottesloe Oceanarium, Western Australia's first public aquarium which operated in the 1960's.
The collection represents all of Australia and was put together primarily in the 1960's and 70's. It features a giant Great White Shark (White Pointer) as well as whaling artifacts, fossils, sharks jaws and hundreds of other amazing exhibits. There's even a sea dragon, vintage dive gear and pieces of the US space station Skylab!
We love our sharks and our curator Paul is keen to share a lifetime of sharky stories and experiences, as well as answer your questions about these incredible creatures.
I realize that many of us may not have the opportunity to visit Shark in a Bus in person but I really like the idea and what Paul it trying to do with his moving exhibit. I hope you will take a moment to visit Shark in a Bus and please share them on your Facebook and other Social Media pages. When I was a kid seeing an exhibit like this would have been better than a stack of E-Ticket rides on Christmas!
Photo of Paul's new Argonaut Kraken on the test bench before it begins its long journey to Australia.
Saturday, June 6, 2015
Sea Hunt Forever.....March 19th and 20th 2016
March 19th and 20th at Silver Springs Park Florida. As part of the Florida Springs Fest annual celebration, VDH Worldwide LLC will be bringing you a multi faceted presentation entitled,
Sea Hunt Forever!
- World renowned collector and historian Alec Pierce will be displaying his one of a kind collection containing memorabilia and props from the Sea Hunt TV show and Silver Springs. Most items are found nowhere else in the world and some have not been seen for decades.
- Meet original cast and support members from the TV series.
- Divers in period correct gear reenacting scenes and entertaining guests on glass bottom boat tours and during surface intervals.
- Jonathan Bird will be filming an episode of his award winning show Jonathan Birds Blue World during the event.
Fun and entertainment for the whole family with Silver Springs Park hosting vendors, artists and entertainers the whole weekend long dedicated to raising awareness of the need to preserve the natural resources of the Florida Springs.
Website for event is being developed.
Facebook page Sea Hunt Forever.
Twitter account https://twitter.com/seahuntforever
Monday, June 1, 2015
Argonaut Kraken a year in review
In June we celebrate delivery of the First Series Argonaut Kraken regulators to all the backers of the Fundable Campaign. Please allow me a little latitude as I wax philosophically about what an amazing year it has been.
A year ago in February I asked my friends, dive buddies, customers and potential new customers to believe enough in our new regulator project to put up their hard earned money to assist me in covering the cost to manufacture them. You can still see the campaign on the Fundables website HERE
To my amazement we made our funding goal in 5 hours and went on to reach 160% of what our financial goal was! Once again my most humble thanks to those who believed in the project and put their faith and trust in me.
Now that the goal was met the real challenge was getting them all assembled, tested and shipped out to their new owners by the end of June 2014. With a great deal of help from my friend Rob at The Scuba Museum I was able to get them completed and we shipped 38 regulators to their new owners and 70 some T-shirts and certificates in a little over 3 weeks.
Jerry Lang (aka Kemps Cow) takes delivery of his Argonaut Kraken at Portage Quarry
Over the last year I have been inundated with requests for information on the new regulator from around the globe and have shipped new Argonauts to 12 countries outside the US.
What I enjoy more than anything is getting pictures and E-mail from divers using their regulator and sharing them with their dive buddies and friends. This is the most rewarding part for me!
We have over a hundred Argonaut Kraken regulators diving the world right now and I hope to double that number this year again.
Argonaut Kraken in it’s element
Luis and I are continually working to improve the Argonaut and do our best to share these updates as often as possible. What other company provides you direct access to the designer of your regulator as well as the person who assembled and setup each one of them? Below is a photo of Luis monitoring and taking notes on intermediate pressure changes while diving.
Let me wrap this up by once again thanking everyone who helped make the Argonaut Kraken project a reality. Without your support I’m sure we would still be stuck with the few working prototypes only.
If you are not a member of Team Argonaut there is still time to purchase one of the original configuration regulators remaining in the website store.
Wednesday, May 20, 2015
Sand Dog XII Follow Up
Sand Dog XII was once again a fun event and a great time meeting new divers and getting together with old friends.
Friday starts out as is usually does as divers arrive and start to assimlate in the motel parking lot. The veterans of the event are pretty easy to spot as they are normally standing or walking around with various regulators and other gear they want to show off or discuss with everyone. This is the time that the new divers to the group start circling closer and closer and most jump right in with introductions and comments like ….I’m (insert screen name here) on the VDH Website Forum….OH so your the guy or, It’s finally good to put a face with the posts…..Hey tell me about that new flux capacitor you have been putting on your Deathways 2000 that is supposed to double your bottom time…..Or Hey did you get your new Argonaut Kraken yet? And the inevitable….If you are looking for gear, the guy in 207 has some great stuff for sale...Better get on over there before Rob gets here and buys it all up.
This went on and on for hours as people split up and go into little huddles scheming and plotting to get the best deal and make the most of what they brought to trade and sell.
Followed shortly by one or two divers getting in the motel pool and showing off their best Mike Nelson skills as the rest grab a beverage or two and talk diving and catching up from past years events.
Eventually and with as much effort as herding cats we all made it to a local buffet restaurant where more 50 Fathom dive stories continue.
Saturday morning comes early as Blue Springs only allows X amount of divers in at once. If you don’t get there early you may have to wait till the afternoon to get a divers pass.
Luckily we had rehearsed the drill the night before and were able to persevere through the ass backwards system of diver check in at the park and made it to our assembly area all in one piece.
First I would like to thank Dave, Fred and Fun Size Doug for grabbing a great spot and putting up pop up canopies to help shelter us from the heat!
The day progressed as usual with divers going in and out of the spring trying out various equipment configurations, getting used to the heavy flow from the spring and taking lots of photos and video of all the divers.
At lunchtime we gathered for the traditional Sand Dog cookout mastered and overseen by my lovely wife and daughter and everyone was well fed and rehydrated and ready for another fun filled afternoon of double hose diving.
We packed up late in the afternoon and headed on back to the motel to refresh and get ready for the evening gathering at a local restaurant for more hours of tales from the deep and other events of the day. Group had a great time and headed back to the motel for more “Parking Lot” talk, camaraderie and gear swapping till late in the evening.
Sunday morning took us to Alexander Springs which is about an hour from our host motel and through the genius of GPS directed several of us down a 6 mile stretch of washboard gravel road that was more akin to an episode of Top Gear UK, (not the crap US version) than a diving trip!
Alexander is a shallow spring but allows for many dives and is a great place to try out new gear and configurations. Gives divers the chance to get their rigs dialed in for the season and ready for other dive trips and destinations. Lots of free time to talk and share the common bonds that bring divers together and discuss what was working and how it can work better.
The afternoon was wrapped up the gear was packed and plans for next years event was already in the works.
I’m really lucky to have such great friends and customers gather together sharing their passion for double hose diving with my family and I. There are a lot more pictures and video forthcoming and I hope you will visit the VDH Website Forum in the next few weeks as divers have time to get home and post them. I had started a post on the event on Scuba Board but The Turkish Turd has made it his mission in life to criticize and demean our group and the event. Envy rears it’s ugly head in every group but no need to be dragged down with it.
I hope everyone makes plans to attend our event next time! Keep watching the VDH website and VDH Facebook page for updates and information. Friday, May 8, 2015
VDH Timeline Part Five
VDH Timeline Part Five
Luis and I were talking the other day and he brought up that VDH had been going for more than a decade now a thought it might be nice to share some of the highlights for all the new double hose divers out there who have not been around since day one. My plan is to cover a few things at a time and post them on the message forum so those with a better memory than mine can share some insight and give some other interesting bits of information.
While I was typing this up I kept hearing Don’t Come Easy by Ringo in my head for some weird reason…
What you see spread before you in the pictures below are parts that 10 years ago were not available new and most not available at all. If you could find NOS parts they were usually sky high and the NEW part of NOS was often questionable.
For example, NOS main diaphragms were sky high and even if they were kept in pristine conditions they were still no better than the original materials they were manufactured from.
If you want to see the only new parts that were available a decade ago,pay a visit to Dan at Vintage Scuba Supply’s store and you can see what 2005 had to offer for the double hose diver. This is not a knock on VSS, Dan is a well known collector and historian and takes a different approach to his business than I do.
And there are still are people out there who scream….Leave the old stuff alone! We like our regulators to breathe like crap...That’s how it’s supposed to be, you are ruining the originality of them…..You kids get off my lawn!!
By far the most difficult small part to get right were the high pressure seats. I won’t bore you with how they are actually manufactured but building a rig to test their longevity was a huge undertaking.
I started by putting four identical 72cf cylinder with matching valves side by side and then held them in place on a board with pipe hanger straps. Then I took 4 DA 1st stages with the new seats in them with the pin and mushroom supports all facing up and as perfectly aligned as I could get them. Next I took a dowel rod and put round head nylon bolts through it so they were sticking down like lobes on a camshaft and I aligned each bolt head directly over the mushroom pin support. It took a lot of time to get it all in place properly and finally I attached a small motor to a gear reduction drive that I got from a device used to pull up theater curtains very slowly.
Finally I connected it to the dowel rod with a Lovejoy connector and let it rip...The dowel rod turned and the nylon nuts pressed down on the pin supports unseating the high pressure seats cycling the first stages. I did this for days….If I was home, the rig was running. Periodically I had to adjust the length of the nuts so they would keep an even pressure on all 4 valves or some would actuate and some would not. Did I mention this went on for days? Well it did!
The sounds were similar to steam valves opening and closing and after a while I had to put on hearing protection cause it was driving me insane…….But in the end it worked pretty well and I’ve been really happy with all three HP seats I've reproduced and the Quick Set tool I now use would have tested the seats durability much easier than the Rube Goldberg contraption I built.
Another challenge was and still is sometimes are tolerances. Parts for original regulator varied a bit. Sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. I ran into this the first time when I had the brass and bronze first stage filters done. When I tried the new filters in first stages they fit fine in some and in others not so much. I realized the tolerance when manufactured was on the high side of the samples I used and I should have backed off a bit on the +/-. Quite a few customers had to sand down the outer edge to get them to fit properly. They were also very expensive to make so after I ran out I decided that it was one part that I could skip. Modern filters and backup washers work just fine and unless you are at a concours regulator show no one is the wiser.
Another addition to the recycling bin were the first run of HPR 2nd stage levers. The bend angle is critical and the drawings were very clear and explicit but the angle was still slightly off on the majority of finished levers. Now the easy approach would have been to simply flatten and correctly bend them again myself. But after trying a few this way it left marks where I had flattened them and I couldn’t stand the thought of a part that looked so nice and shiny with marks on it….So I scrapped the whole batch and today I still bend each lever one at a time in the jig Herman made for me.
A big issue is fielding E-mails like this…...Could you make XYZ part? If you did make it I would buy one...The operative word here is ONE. Unfortunately I don’t have the skills, tools or machinery to turn out one of any part and no manufacturing company is going to take an order for ONE part unless it’s accompanied by a check with a lot of zeros in it.
There are several other companies that produced double hose regulators aside from USD and Voit but as of now no one has really picked up the ball and offered a large selection of parts and support for them.
Take the Healthways regulators as an example….Made in the thousands and easy to come by. Rugged single stage design and can be a good breathing regulator with minimal effort. The achilles heel is the exhaust design. The majority of them were made with a weird two piece exhaust in an effort to keep the Aqua Lung lawyers at bay over the duckbill exhaust design.
Over the years I have come up with several ideas that would work and even had reproducing the original parts sourced for them but no matter how sharp my pencil was I could never get the dollars and cents to line up with the cost of making them.
Sand Dog is next weekend May 15th to 17th so I’ll blog about that for a week or so afterwards and try to finish up the saga of getting the hoses and mouthpieces made. It reads more like a comedy of errors that a success story….
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